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We’re using single quotes in footnotes to show the meaning of a word. For example:

... \ft "Messiah" in Hebrew means 'Anointed One'. \f*

When we run the Quotation check, it is identifying these as a quote-in-quote or quote-in-quote-in-quote and is complaining about it not being closed.

Our quotation rules are shown below and I’ve worked through the punctuation inventory.

Any idea on what to do to fix this?

Quotation settings

Opening Quote Continuer at new \p Closing
Quotes
Quotes within Quotes
Quotes

Continuer required at: p p/q1 b/q1

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I am doing the same thing, and am indeed using 02BB and 02BC as my quote marks for definitions. However, now I have a new problem, Paratext is identifying a comma or period before 02BC as word-medial. I don’t want to say in my punctuation inventory that word-medial periods are OK, because that would allow many unallowable ones. How can I make the rule more specific so it’s only allowed before 02BC? Or how I can I get Paratext to recognize these as alternate quote marks?

par (180 points)

I would recommend clicking on the Show Sequences box so that you can approve the combinations.

Since 02BB and 02BC are modifier letters there is no way to avoid the medial punctuation issue - except for moving the closing punctuation outside the closing 02BC. In order to check that these characters are matching you can either add them to the quotation rules as alternate first level or add them to the options of matched pairs of punctuation and check them there.

Here is what they look like in the quotation rules:
Screenshot 2022-02-24 21.28.20

However, this still doesn’t help with the medial punctuation issue.

Thanks for this, that helps!

Are there any other options that Paratext would recognize as quote marks, besides the straight quotes, and the 2018/2019? To avoid the word-medial error problem.

Lenice - I don’t know of any perfect option that will allow you to do what you are doing. You do what you are doing and generate an error (which you can then deny) or by use some punctuation character that doesn’t look correct, but can be changed in the publishing process. For instance, you could use < and > to mark your definitions and then in the publication path changes these to quotation marks. You would then not check these as quotation marks, but simply used the matched punctuation check to verify that they are matched.

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Use apostrophe instead of
single curly quote

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Only problem there is that Convert Straight Quotes thinks that this is a straight quotation mark and converts it.

Any other ideas?

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Basically you are trying to use one symbol to do two different functions and Paratext is not good at handling this. You can look for alternate characters to use in the footnotes that won’t get changed by some other operation. You could use 02BB and 02CC. (ʻ ʼ). Or you could use something like: < … > and have these converted at time of printing or convert them after you have cleaned up your quotation check.

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Thanks!

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par (155 points)
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OK thanks, will talk to my team

par (180 points)

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