Quotations across \q1 text causes error when quoted text spans across multiple verses

Question

Hi,

I hope someone can help me with this strange behavior.

I have a Quotation Rule for my project as follows:

But, I get an error when the quoted text span across multiple verses in \q1. The error says as follows:
Closing quote mark is possibly missing before verse 4: “

Here is the result of the Run Checks on this verse:

Everything looks okay to me but am I doing something wrong?

Thanks.
-Yasutaka

P.S.

Answer 1

This issue is related to the new quotation checks. This idea of a "possible" error is an indication that some translations close the quotation after verse 4 and Paratext would like you to verify that you have closed it where you want. The error shows up even if you have not selected the Quotation types check in Run Basic checks.

To hide these errors you must go to the Quotation Rules, Click on the Quotation Types tab and uncheck the box to Enable the Quotations types check. 

Comments

Yes! This is it! Thank you so much!

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Earlier, there was a bug where checking errors displayed from the Quotation types check when only the Quotation check was run (as described above). That should be fixed now in Paratext 9.4.101.6.

Now it shouldn't be necessary to disable the Quotation types check: Quotation types checking errors should only display when the Quotation types check is run.

Answer 2

This appears to be the GKHB project. When I Run Basic Checks...Quotations on the GKHB project I see this error on PSA 129:4 and any place a closing quote precedes a khan.

Closing quote [ ” U+201D ] found as a word medial character. Sometimes caused when a closing quote is incorrectly used as an apostrophe.

If you have the khan character or any other punctuation listed in Project Settings...Language Settings...Alphabetic Characters then you should remove it from that list. (I can't see if it's there since I only have GKHB as a resource from the DBL.)

Comments

Hi, thank you so much for your answer.

Downloading the GKHB from the DBL is not going to accurately replicate the issues I'm facing. The reason for that error in the GKHB from DBL is because there are zero width spaces around the quotation marks. Mine doesn't have that.

What's strange is that when I move the closing quotes from the end of verse 4 to the verse 3, exactly the same way (that is double quotes precedes khan), there is NO error. There should NOT be any issue where the double quotes close... whether its is verse 3, 4, 5 or 10, if there are no paragraph break.

Very perplexed how to go about this.

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There were some new quotation checks added in Paratext 9.4. Open Paratext Help and click on "What's new in Paratext 9.4?". I'm guessing that what you're seeing is related to this, though I'm able to reproduce the message you're seeing even with the new checks turned off, so I don't understand it. Maybe someone else can chime to explain what causes this "possibly missing" message to appear.

I didn't notice the ZWSP around punctuation before. Removing the ZWSP does get rid of the error I mentioned above. Why are ZWSP added to the DBL version? The ZWSP causes punctuation to wrap to the next line sometimes. See picture at link below.
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ahw4Z_pSM7h3n_MuPM7wt-kL1l8b7Q?e=OwQenH

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Hi!

Thank you so much for your details and for your input. They are helpful for me to further investigate.

I wanted to make sure if I had understood the "khan character". Would you mind telling me the Unicode number of this character?

Yes, it's really perplexing why it complains as everything looks okay (I have removed ALL ZWSP characters from ALL the verses).
https://imgur.com/a/J7HdgRh

I replaced everything with English text, and it still shows this strange error.
https://imgur.com/a/7bsp6EB

thanks.
-Yasutaka

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"Khmer Sign Khan" is \u17D4. Since it's a punctuation character it should NOT be listed in Partext's "Alphabetic Characters".