Verse reference appearing UNDER the line

Question

Hello!

I am having an issue with my ptx setup of John. I can't seem to make adjustments to change the verse reference showing up BELOW the line (see attached screenshot). Any suggestions? Thank you!

-Casey

Answer 1

Hi,
The green "horizontal rule" measure is accurate (you probably want it to be about 0). Unfortunately the 'Bottom of header to top of text' setting is unreliable. The maths to work it out is complex, depends on the font,  and currently wrong.

I can't successfully past an image, for some reason, but... to start with,
1. set the (green) horizontal rule figure to 0pt
2. Set the purple 'bottom of header to top of text' to, say half the font height.
3. Adjust so the horizontal line is sitting on the rule properly. Half is good for charis, 0.2 or so is better for Arial, if I remember correctly.
4. Remember the offset.
5. Set values how you actually want them to be, adding in the offset.

What's going wrong?
The purple figure is used to calculate the blue figure beside it, which for historical reasons is the distance from the top of the page to the top of the box containing the text. Unfortunately, that box includes the space the font designers decided to leave for accents. For Charis, the 'ascent' of the font is about 1.5 times the font height, but for Ariel it is 1.2 times.
To calculate the  correct offset, The Python user interface would need to (a) work out which font(s) are in use in the header, (b) somehow read the font(s) to determine which one has the highest ascent.
Alternatively, the calculation in TeX could be done in a different way, which would break existing projects.
At the moment, we have a guess, which is frequently wrong, but doesn't actually break anything...
 

Comments

@DG I was also struggling to paste images into this forum, which is a bit annoying. I'll try again today, but certainly a picture is worth 1000 words in this case.

IF you view is set to "Basic View" then several of the more complex controls on the Layout tab are HIDDEN, so perhaps you are only seeing this:

Use the Menu button at the bottom left corner to reveal the other settings, where you should be able to change the settings as described above:

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Thank you for your help! 

I tried your suggestions and it worked! However, I am now having a hard time putting a larger space between the horizontal line and the body text below it. I'd like to have a bit more white space there. When I adjust the purple "bottom of header to top of text" number, which I assumed would be the value I should change, it just adds more white space between the header text and the horizontal line, not white space between the line and the paragraph body text. 

Thanks!